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Sean Carroll: Experimental Validation of Quantum Mechanics Interpretations and Emergent Spacetime

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Sean Carroll addresses the most promising avenues for experimentally validating or falsifying theories regarding quantum mechanics interpretations and emergent spacetime, distinguishing between these two distinct areas of inquiry. Regarding the Many Worlds Interpretation (MWI), he highlights that current experimental efforts focus on determining whether wavefunctions undergo spontaneous collapse; if such a collapse is observed, it would definitively rule out MWI. Conversely, Carroll notes the existence of hidden variable theories which some argue should yield different predictions than standard quantum mechanics, though he expresses skepticism about a specific theorem suggesting these variables always produce identical results to MWI. He admits that this mathematical result has not yet fully integrated into his intuitive understanding of physics and suggests there may be loopholes or undiscovered experimental distinctions between the two frameworks. In contrast to the relatively mature state of quantum mechanics established since 1926, Carroll emphasizes that theories concerning emergent spacetime remain in a very primitive stage without a single, safely written-down respectable theory yet available for rigorous testing. Consequently, specific experimental predictions are currently unknown because scientists do not fully understand what kind of "really big," fast, or energetic phenomena might be required to probe these concepts. This lack of theoretical development means that while dramatic violations of known physics could occur—such as light traveling faster than the standard speed limit depending on its wavelength—the theories are simply too undeveloped to make absolute predictions about when or how such effects would manifest. The speaker also touches upon a recurring phenomenon in science journalism where breathless articles claim quantum mechanics has been shown to be more astonishing than ever before, only for Carroll to point out that these claims often refer to the same fundamental equations used since the mid-1920s rather than new theoretical breakthroughs. This distinction is crucial when evaluating future experiments; while testing wavefunction collapse offers a clear binary outcome (collapse exists or it does not), investigating emergent spacetime involves navigating uncharted territory where the very nature of space and time might differ from current models based on wavelength-dependent speeds. Ultimately, Carroll concludes that the path forward for validating these theories depends heavily on advancing our theoretical understanding before we can design definitive experiments. For hidden variables versus Many Worlds, there is a hope that future tests will reveal differences in predictions despite existing mathematical constraints, although this remains uncertain to him personally. However, for emergent spacetime scenarios, the scientific community must first construct robust frameworks capable of predicting how extreme conditions—whether involving massive scales or high energies—might alter our perception of causality and light speed, acknowledging that current limitations prevent us from stating with certainty what specific violations might be observed in nature.
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even outside of quantum computers some of the theories that we've been talking about what's your hope what's most promising to test these theories what are what are kind of experiments we can conduct whether in simulation or in the physical world that would validate or disprove or expand these theories well I think for the there's two parts of that question one is many worlds and the other one is sort of emergent space-time for many worlds you know there are experiments on going to test whether or not wavefunction spontaneously collapse and if they do then that rules out many worlds and that would be falsified what if there are hidden variables there's a theorem that seems to indicate that the predictions will always be the same as many worlds I'm a little skeptical this theorem I'm not completely I haven't internalized that I haven't made it in part of my intuitive view of the world yet so there might be loopholes to that theorem I'm not sure about that a part of me thinks that there should be different experimental predictions if there are hidden variables but I'm not sure but otherwise it's just quantum mechanics all the way down and so there's there's this cottage industry in science journalism of writing breathless articles that say you know quantum mechanics shown to be more astonishing than ever before thought and really it's the same quantum mechanics we've been doing since 1926 whereas with the emergent space-time stuff we know a lot less about what the theory is it's in a very primitive state we don't even really have a safely written down respectable honest theory yet so there could very well be experimental predictions we just don't know about yet that is one of the things that we're trying to figure out before emergence space-time you need a really big stuff all right well or really fast stuff or really energetic stuff we don't know that's the thing you know so there could be violations of the speed of light if you have emergent space-time not going faster than the speed of light but the speed of light could be different for light of different wavelengths right that would be a dramatic violation of physics as we know it but it could be possible or not I mean it's not an absolutely prediction as that's that's the problem the theories are just not well developed enough yet to say you