Sean Carroll: Experimental Validation of Quantum Mechanics Interpretations and Emergent Spacetime
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Sean Carroll addresses the most promising avenues for experimentally validating or falsifying theories regarding quantum mechanics interpretations and emergent spacetime, distinguishing between these two distinct areas of inquiry. Regarding the Many Worlds Interpretation (MWI), he highlights that current experimental efforts focus on determining whether wavefunctions undergo spontaneous collapse; if such a collapse is observed, it would definitively rule out MWI. Conversely, Carroll notes the existence of hidden variable theories which some argue should yield different predictions than standard quantum mechanics, though he expresses skepticism about a specific theorem suggesting these variables always produce identical results to MWI. He admits that this mathematical result has not yet fully integrated into his intuitive understanding of physics and suggests there may be loopholes or undiscovered experimental distinctions between the two frameworks. In contrast to the relatively mature state of quantum mechanics established since 1926, Carroll emphasizes that theories concerning emergent spacetime remain in a very primitive stage without a single, safely written-down respectable theory yet available for rigorous testing. Consequently, specific experimental predictions are currently unknown because scientists do not fully understand what kind of "really big," fast, or energetic phenomena might be required to probe these concepts. This lack of theoretical development means that while dramatic violations of known physics could occur—such as light traveling faster than the standard speed limit depending on its wavelength—the theories are simply too undeveloped to make absolute predictions about when or how such effects would manifest. The speaker also touches upon a recurring phenomenon in science journalism where breathless articles claim quantum mechanics has been shown to be more astonishing than ever before, only for Carroll to point out that these claims often refer to the same fundamental equations used since the mid-1920s rather than new theoretical breakthroughs. This distinction is crucial when evaluating future experiments; while testing wavefunction collapse offers a clear binary outcome (collapse exists or it does not), investigating emergent spacetime involves navigating uncharted territory where the very nature of space and time might differ from current models based on wavelength-dependent speeds. Ultimately, Carroll concludes that the path forward for validating these theories depends heavily on advancing our theoretical understanding before we can design definitive experiments. For hidden variables versus Many Worlds, there is a hope that future tests will reveal differences in predictions despite existing mathematical constraints, although this remains uncertain to him personally. However, for emergent spacetime scenarios, the scientific community must first construct robust frameworks capable of predicting how extreme conditions—whether involving massive scales or high energies—might alter our perception of causality and light speed, acknowledging that current limitations prevent us from stating with certainty what specific violations might be observed in nature.
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even outside of quantum computers some
of the theories that we've been talking
about what's your hope what's most
promising to test these theories what
are what are kind of experiments we can
conduct whether in simulation or in the
physical world that would validate or
disprove or expand these theories well I
think for the there's two parts of that
question one is many worlds and the
other one is sort of emergent space-time
for many worlds you know there are
experiments on going to test whether or
not wavefunction spontaneously collapse
and if they do then that rules out many
worlds and that would be falsified what
if there are hidden variables there's a
theorem that seems to indicate that the
predictions will always be the same as
many worlds I'm a little skeptical this
theorem I'm not completely I haven't
internalized that I haven't made it in
part of my intuitive view of the world
yet so there might be loopholes to that
theorem I'm not sure about that a part
of me thinks that there should be
different experimental predictions if
there are hidden variables but I'm not
sure but otherwise it's just quantum
mechanics all the way down and so
there's there's this cottage industry in
science journalism of writing breathless
articles that say you know quantum
mechanics shown to be more astonishing
than ever before thought and really it's
the same quantum mechanics we've been
doing since 1926 whereas with the
emergent space-time stuff we know a lot
less about what the theory is it's in a
very primitive state we don't even
really have a safely written down
respectable honest theory yet so there
could very well be experimental
predictions we just don't know about yet
that is one of the things that we're
trying to figure out before emergence
space-time you need a really big stuff
all right
well or really fast stuff or really
energetic stuff we don't know that's the
thing you know so there could be
violations of the speed of light if you
have emergent space-time not going
faster than the speed of light but the
speed of light could be different for
light of different wavelengths right
that would be a dramatic violation of
physics as we know it but it could be
possible or not I mean it's not an
absolutely prediction as that's that's
the problem the theories are just not
well developed enough yet to say
you