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Michio Kaku: AI Will Help Us Discover Genetic Immortality | AI Podcast Clips

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Michio Kaku posits that artificial intelligence will serve as the catalyst for achieving genetic immortality, a feat previously sought in vain by historical figures like emperors and queens who chased the mythical Fountain of Youth. He argues that within coming decades, humanity will possess billions of genome sequences from both young and old individuals, which AI systems with advanced pattern recognition capabilities can analyze to identify specific "aged genes." By locating these genetic markers associated with aging, technology could effectively reverse the biological clock, offering a solution that transcends mere digital preservation of human essence. The core mechanism behind this potential immortality lies in understanding the fundamental nature of aging itself, which Kaku defines as the accumulation of errors within our genome and cellular activity. These accumulated mistakes cause cells to become sluggish or enter senescence before eventually dying; therefore, death is essentially a result of genetic degradation rather than an inevitable fate. To combat this, future technologies like CRISPR will be utilized to repair these specific genetic faults. Kaku draws a direct parallel between mechanical aging in cars and biological aging in humans: just as the engine contains moving parts where combustion occurs leading to wear and tear, the mitochondria within cells are the site of metabolic activity that eventually succumbs to error accumulation. Fixing mitochondrial mistakes could theoretically render human beings immortal. However, Kaku introduces a crucial philosophical distinction regarding what constitutes true immortality by referencing the Greek myth of Aurora (Eos) and her lover Tithonus. In this story, Aurora successfully petitioned Zeus for eternal life but neglected to request eternal youth, resulting in Tithonus aging into decrepitude while remaining unable to die. Kaku uses this narrative to illustrate that quality of life is paramount; immortality without the vitality associated with youth would be a curse rather than a blessing. He suggests that any future breakthrough must ensure that individuals retain their physical health and vigor alongside extended lifespans, preventing the tragic fate depicted in mythology where one suffers eternal decay. Ultimately, Kaku expresses his personal belief regarding how humanity might approach this ultimate goal: by allowing descendants to reach an age of thirty before halting the aging process entirely. At thirty years old, individuals would possess a blend of wisdom and maturity derived from decades of life experience while maintaining a healthy body capable of living forever in that prime state. This vision suggests a future where humans could enjoy the benefits of full adulthood for several centuries without succumbing to physical decline or death, effectively solving the problem of aging by freezing biological time at its most optimal point rather than attempting to reverse it from old age.
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do you think one day technology will allow individual human beings to become immortal besides just through the ability to digitize our essence yeah I think that artificial intelligence will give us the key to to genetic immortality you see in the coming decades everyone's going to have their gene sequence we'll have billions of genomes of old people billions of genomes of young people and what are we going to do with it we're gonna run into an AI machine which has a pattern recognition to look for the Aged genes in other words the Fountain of Youth that Emperor's kings and queens lusted a ver over the Fountain of Youth will be found by artificial intelligence artificial intelligence will identify where these aged genes are located first of all what is aging we now know what aging is aging is the build up of errors that's all aging is the build up of genetic errors this means that cells eventually become slower sluggish if they go into senescence and they die in fact that's why we die we die because of the build up of mistakes in our genome in our cellular activity but you've seen the future we'll be able to fix those genes with CRISPR type technologies and perhaps even live forever so let me ask you a question we're just aging take place in a car given a car where does aging take place well it's obvious the engine right a that's where you have a lot of moving parts B that's where you have combustion well where in the cell do we have combustion the mitochondria we know know where ageing takes place and if we cure many of the mistakes that build up in the mitochondria of the cell we could become immortal let me ask you if you yourself could become immortal would you damn straight now I think about it for a while because of course if the term it depends on how you become immortal you know there's a famous myth of Tiffany's it turns out that years ago the in the Greeks mythology there was the saga of Tiffany's and Aurora Aurora was the goddess of the dawn and she fell in love with a mortal a human called Athena's and so Aurora begged big Zeus to grant her the the gift of immortality to give to her lover so Zeus took pity on Aurora and made Tiffany's immortal but you see Aurora made a mistake a huge mistake she asked for immortality but she forgot to ask for eternal youth so port Athena's got older and older and older every year decrepit a bag of bones but he could never die never done quality of life is important so I think immortality is a great idea as long as you also have a mortal youth as well now I personally believe and I cannot prove this I personally believe that our grandkids may have the option of reaching the age of 30 and then stopping they may like being age 30 is you have wisdom do you have all the benefits of age and maturity and you still live forever with a healthy body our descendants may like being 30 for several centuries you